The Humble Pie Project, Slice #1

posted by Eivind on January 26, 2011, at 8:52 pm

Not so long ago, I woke up to this e-mail:

Pelle, I really enjoy your writing, even when I disagree or question some things that you write. I think that what you say is incredibly important. This particular blog is interesting, and there are some comments that I might make at another time, but this time around i want to address the comments made on here by EIVIND.

Att’n EIVIND:
Eivind, goodness me, although your saturated self-righteousness would never allow you to see this, your approach is dripping with patronising, smug, self importance, and you use words very cleverly to create exactly the ‘I am right and you are wrong’ energy that you so patronisingly caution others against. I mean, seriously mate, eeeeewwwww! Immature, I know, compared to your skilled mastery of new age vernacular, but that is what I get when I read your passive aggressive drivel….eeewwwwww! It makes my skin crawl. The way you deal with people on here is so disempowering and deliberately (though disguised) humiliating and so horribly righteous, but you have the language skills and self belief (pathalogical!) to frame it in a way that makes you sound so new Age and sensitive and right. Mate, you are guessing like the rest of us, just trying to get through like the rest of us; if you were even nearly as evolved as your self-obsession tells you you are you would learn some humility. True humility, not the false ego version that your ego is right now telling you to respond that you have.

That said, Eivind…… men are here on this plane to serve women?? That is our entire reason for manifesting here?? Man, that is a theory, not a fact. Which I think is what Erik was trying to get at, but you passive-aggressively attacked him (oh yes you did, even though right now your little mind is going ‘no, brother, I don’t attack, I’m too evolved’), and used the fact that you are better with words than him to put him down, and he gave up. I am sure that you are used to that, and see yourself as having made some kind of point to him, but man, in your own new age terms, you are darkening your own soul with your smug continued conviction that you are in the right. (Erik, hang in there, and be true to yourself, don’t feel disempowered by knobs like Eivind). Anyway, ‘men are here on this plane to serve women’….just a theory, and very, VERY similar (in reverse) to the Scriptural interpretations, ALSO THEORIES, that were used to keep women in servitude for so many centuries. Is ’serving women is your reason for existence, brother, if you were really spiritual you would understand’, any different to the crap that women were fed about God placing men above them? Eivind, if you weren’t so damaging, i would just laugh and say eeewwww, what a silly, self-righteous, smug wanker. But you are damaging, and the nature of your righteousness is that you will go through life convinced that you are evolved. Sad.

It was a response to a thread I participated in just about a year ago on my friend Pelle Billing's blog, sent to my mailbox because I was still subscribed to it.

You can imagine it got my attention. I found myself strangely enlivened – the energy of the words actually gave me energy. My nervous system went alert and I felt alive. And then I became happy. I actually giggled. What was going on? I realized that this dude had actually, although he was clearly swimming in a lot of his own shit, identified some things about my past self which were true. I laughed because the criticism of my past self – just one year back – was so out of line when applied to who I am now. I sensed how much my life had changed in so little time and it made me rejoice.

I just read that thread again and actually find my presence there to be somewhat intolerable. Quite arrogant actually. "A pompous arse"  comes to mind. I agree in principle with many of the things I said, but the way in which I said them are strangely out of sync with how I now think and what I now feel to be appropriate communication. My absolutist stance is passive aggressive, the dude was right (I have since learned how absolutist statements are a sign of insecurity). And I was shaming another dude in the thread and saying pretty much explicitly that I was further along on the path than him. That's not a decent way to communicate in my book.

The claim that "the nature of your righteousness is that you will go through life convinced that you are evolved" had just enough truth in it to wake me up and was so out of line with reality that it made me feel freedom and joy inside.

HOWEVER, I realized that this is likely to happen more as my audience widens – I will be criticized for words both past and present. What better way to deal with it than starting the "Humble Pie Project". Whenever someone says something nasty about me, something that will make me look like shit, I will post it here, provided it was published in a public forum. Don't let that scare you off from criticizing me – I invite it.

Give it to me  ;-)

  • Lukifer Aurelius

    I admire you for doing this Eivind, it takes some courage. Something I noticed in myself arising while reading this post though was a feeling that you might actually be deflecting this criticism directed at you by asserting that it only applies to your ‘past self’. To me it’s more than likely these aspects of your personality are still within you now and the danger is that by asserting these aspects of your personality only exist in your past self, you may not actually be owning them or the criticism (and thereby limiting your digestion of the humble pie goodness). I’m not an expert on psychology or anything, but in my experience our immature subpersonalities don’t just dissolve into emptiness when we outgrow them. They’re usually patterns of being that are with us for life,  and our personal growth is often a process of immature subpersonalities being subsumed into more mature subpersonality arrangements.

    I know i have all of these traits you were criticised for here in my self-system.

  • http://www.masculinity-movies.com Eivind

    Thank you, Lukifer – that’s very perceptive and well put of you and I am grateful that you point it out.

    Though I must say – aside from any words I have used above – I haven’t in myself assumed that these parts are all gone from me. I’m just able to embrace them with more love now than I ever had. Just putting it out there in this way is actually owning it for me. I could have tried to hide it and pretended it wasn’t at all true, though I feel I did pretty good in evading that pitfall.

    Your post gave me increased energy to stay vigilant of these patterns in the time to come though. I thank you for that.

    How have you dealt with these traits in your own life?

  • Lukifer Aurelius

    Thats cool man. Just wanted to check that with you, probably something i’ve been guilty of  :)

    For me these traits and their expressions are usually just humourus to me. I deal with having them by allowing them to be, letting their concerns and desires be heard, and then letting them go.  It’s pretty funny to realise how much of an arsehole I am at times. I also try to be as open about it as i can about it with others.

  • http://www.masculinity-movies.com Eivind

    I really like your attitude here, Lukifer. In fact, I notice I feel closer to you in observing your humble and humane attitude.

    Yeah, you seem like a good dude. Glad to have you hear and thanks for the reminder.

  • Lukifer Aurelius

    Ahhh man this is probably gonna come out a little bit jumbley, so i apologize in advance, i just finished a ten day silent vipassana meditation retreat, approximately 90 hours of meditation, no talking or communicating in anyway with anyone at all times. Very big for me. Quite unsurprisingly, this exposed some rather hellish uncomfortable clingings and deep attachments and fears that are rooted very very deep in my being and sense of self.

    So many of my issues with relating to other men made very painful exposures, and also my rampant narcissism and egotism, and just how easy it is to go from being proud and arrogant, to being so sincere and humble, then realising such a deep rooted and almost unconfrontable desire to take that humility itself and use it for pride and arrogance ‘wow look at me, i’m so honest and humble, most other people aren’t this humble, jeez i’m actually pretty amazing to be this humble.’ hahaha ahhh goddam.

    I also realised in this period that i’m actually really grateful for what you’ve done here, and i’m really looking forward to learning and growing in this tribe you have created.

    So, thanks bro.

  • http://www.masculinity-movies.com Eivind F S

    Hey Lukifer,

    Welcome back from a good effort. They are pretty tough those things. I only did one and I have been recovering from a chronic injury from the sitting ever since. It seems the injury was more than just physical, though – it’s been a great teacher. And I’m just months from fully recovering.

    That said, I always knew you were full of shit. Time to get your act together, schizo. Shees! ,-)

    Truth aside (or was it jokes), I know this one myself, man. We gotta be gentle with ourselves though. Shadows are tough on the digestion but really good nutrition in the long run.

    PS! Is it intentional that I think of Lucifer every time I read your name?